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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<description>gay this site is shite litterally</description>
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		<title>By: Podnosh Blog &#187; Archive &#187; Seth Godin&#8217;s First Law of mass media:</title>
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		<dc:creator>Podnosh Blog &#187; Archive &#187; Seth Godin&#8217;s First Law of mass media:</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Hattip. See also. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: FutureGov &#187; Useful links &#187; links for 2008-09-01</title>
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		<description>[...] Social media is poop scoop, not turd polish at Helpful Technology *Nice* analogy for social media in the public sector. Made me chuckle - thanks Steph! (tags: social media government) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
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		<description>Ray

By your definition of rebuttal, you're absolutely right - to be clear, the subject I'm really talking about here is where there is a legitimate case against the organisation or individual, not where there is a plain fallacy circulating. 

That said, accusations are often laid at the door of public bodies which they then respond to (or choose not to respond to). It's not necessarily that they've dropped a clanger, but the perception develops that they have, and the traditional responses (issue a press notice, give a line to a journalist etc) can come across as stuffy or defensive. 

This is where some of the community tools of social media, together with a more open, human approach, can help to break down the rather siege mentality of accusation&lt;-&gt;rebuttal.</description>
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<p>By your definition of rebuttal, you&#8217;re absolutely right - to be clear, the subject I&#8217;m really talking about here is where there is a legitimate case against the organisation or individual, not where there is a plain fallacy circulating. </p>
<p>That said, accusations are often laid at the door of public bodies which they then respond to (or choose not to respond to). It&#8217;s not necessarily that they&#8217;ve dropped a clanger, but the perception develops that they have, and the traditional responses (issue a press notice, give a line to a journalist etc) can come across as stuffy or defensive. </p>
<p>This is where some of the community tools of social media, together with a more open, human approach, can help to break down the rather siege mentality of accusation< ->rebuttal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Poynter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Poynter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steph, I am not sure I would put rebuttal in with silence and defensive lines? For example, in the US at the moment there is a lie circulating that Obama is a Muslim, and it would appear that a significant number of Americans believe it. In that context rebuttal is absolutely part of the correct response.

If you have dropped a clanger and you claim you have not, that is not a rebuttal, it is somewhere between sophistry and a lie. A rebuttal is, IMHO, where you respond to a slur with the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steph, I am not sure I would put rebuttal in with silence and defensive lines? For example, in the US at the moment there is a lie circulating that Obama is a Muslim, and it would appear that a significant number of Americans believe it. In that context rebuttal is absolutely part of the correct response.</p>
<p>If you have dropped a clanger and you claim you have not, that is not a rebuttal, it is somewhere between sophistry and a lie. A rebuttal is, IMHO, where you respond to a slur with the truth.</p>
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