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		<title>By: Noel Hatch</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-26964</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Hatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks David, hopefully it will come to local gov too</description>
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		<title>By: David Pullinger</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-26963</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pullinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Noel,  the RDFa standard for consultations applies to all central government, i.e. all Departments, their agencies and their NDPBs of whatever form.   The standard for jobs (which uses identical form) applies to all public sector.  LAs mostly deliver this through LGjobs, run by JobsGoPublic.  There are few others in development too.

@BrianHoadley, the man in the street probably won&#039;t use RDFa directly, but will see it use in many different places.  For example we did a demo on Yahoo! showing how job information could be displayed directly in the search results, as opposed to &#039;on this page you may find what you are looking for&#039;.  Google now indexes RDFa, so it won&#039;t be long before we see useful results giving you information directly being displayed in search results.  Then it can be used in a number of ways to provide Linked Data - i.e. lists of items that also refer to the same object on which you can surf.  

@Josh - good question.  We&#039;re seeking to help educate our suppliers about what we&#039;re looking for from them in terms of coding.  Perhaps we should offer a coders&#039; day sometime?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Noel,  the RDFa standard for consultations applies to all central government, i.e. all Departments, their agencies and their NDPBs of whatever form.   The standard for jobs (which uses identical form) applies to all public sector.  LAs mostly deliver this through LGjobs, run by JobsGoPublic.  There are few others in development too.</p>
<p>@BrianHoadley, the man in the street probably won&#8217;t use RDFa directly, but will see it use in many different places.  For example we did a demo on Yahoo! showing how job information could be displayed directly in the search results, as opposed to &#8216;on this page you may find what you are looking for&#8217;.  Google now indexes RDFa, so it won&#8217;t be long before we see useful results giving you information directly being displayed in search results.  Then it can be used in a number of ways to provide Linked Data &#8211; i.e. lists of items that also refer to the same object on which you can surf.  </p>
<p>@Josh &#8211; good question.  We&#8217;re seeking to help educate our suppliers about what we&#8217;re looking for from them in terms of coding.  Perhaps we should offer a coders&#8217; day sometime?</p>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re making Opinion Suite join up with Linked Data (through RDFa) &#124; We Are Team Rubber</title>
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		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re making Opinion Suite join up with Linked Data (through RDFa) &#124; We Are Team Rubber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be doing our bit towards publishing online consultation information as Linked Data (Steph Gray has recently blogged on a similar [...]</description>
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		<title>By: We&#8217;re making Opinion Suite join up with Linked Data (through RDFa) &#124; Delib Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-23961</link>
		<dc:creator>We&#8217;re making Opinion Suite join up with Linked Data (through RDFa) &#124; Delib Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be doing our bit towards publishing online consultation information as Linked Data (Steph Gray has recently blogged on a similar [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Hoadley</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-23290</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Hoadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bit I don&#039;t get is how does the guy on the street - who is very interested in policy and responding to consultations but is not a programmer - get access to the consultations through the RDFa?

Are there publicly available apps that will allow them to somehow locate the RDFa tagged data and view it, or do they need to rely on someone else building an interface for them that searches for the RDFa tagged content?

If the latter is the case, then while it is a step forward, for the people interested in the content it is still of little consequence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bit I don&#8217;t get is how does the guy on the street &#8211; who is very interested in policy and responding to consultations but is not a programmer &#8211; get access to the consultations through the RDFa?</p>
<p>Are there publicly available apps that will allow them to somehow locate the RDFa tagged data and view it, or do they need to rely on someone else building an interface for them that searches for the RDFa tagged content?</p>
<p>If the latter is the case, then while it is a step forward, for the people interested in the content it is still of little consequence.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-20473</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 23:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave: you&#039;re very kind, but reading between the lines I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve explained it much more clearly. In case it helps, I&#039;ve added a couple of code examples illustrating the before and after.

For WordPress, which I suspect is somewhat of an edge case when it comes to government CMSes :-) then the approach involved Simon Wheatley&#039;s &lt;a href=&#039;http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/custom-post-template/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Custom Post Template plugin&lt;/a&gt; to make the post use a special post template, with all the necessary markup ready. In the WordPress admin, all the special metadata is added as a series of custom fields, which are then slotted into the front-end template in the necessary places.

@Noel: you ask a good question - I think it is for central government but not sure about the wider public sector. I&#039;ll ask the COI team.

@Josh: another excellent point, to which I don&#039;t know the answer. Will ask COI too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave: you&#8217;re very kind, but reading between the lines I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve explained it much more clearly. In case it helps, I&#8217;ve added a couple of code examples illustrating the before and after.</p>
<p>For WordPress, which I suspect is somewhat of an edge case when it comes to government CMSes <img src='http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  then the approach involved Simon Wheatley&#8217;s <a href='http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/custom-post-template/' rel="nofollow">Custom Post Template plugin</a> to make the post use a special post template, with all the necessary markup ready. In the WordPress admin, all the special metadata is added as a series of custom fields, which are then slotted into the front-end template in the necessary places.</p>
<p>@Noel: you ask a good question &#8211; I think it is for central government but not sure about the wider public sector. I&#8217;ll ask the COI team.</p>
<p>@Josh: another excellent point, to which I don&#8217;t know the answer. Will ask COI too.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-20328</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give it to your developer? If only :-(

I wonder if our friends at Limehouse etc are on board with this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give it to your developer? If only <img src='http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wonder if our friends at Limehouse etc are on board with this?</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Hatch</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-20320</link>
		<dc:creator>Noel Hatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As ever, Steph, very useful and may just use this blog to show our developers how they can make our data clean - so important when opening up public data - so that you can get your school on a map, it&#039;s opening times on a calendar, etc. Is RDFa a mandatory requirement for all public sector sites?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As ever, Steph, very useful and may just use this blog to show our developers how they can make our data clean &#8211; so important when opening up public data &#8211; so that you can get your school on a map, it&#8217;s opening times on a calendar, etc. Is RDFa a mandatory requirement for all public sector sites?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Briggs</title>
		<link>http://blog.helpfultechnology.com/2010/01/adding-rdfa-to-a-consultation/comment-page-1/#comment-20258</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuph, Steff. I can&#039;t even begin to understand this, but it is clearly important and your post has cleared it up a little bit, which is very useful!

Presumably in Wordpress this has all to be hard coded into templates - or have you found a plugin that helps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuph, Steff. I can&#8217;t even begin to understand this, but it is clearly important and your post has cleared it up a little bit, which is very useful!</p>
<p>Presumably in WordPress this has all to be hard coded into templates &#8211; or have you found a plugin that helps?</p>
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